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The Next Picture Show

#110: (Pt. 1) I, Tonya / To Die For (1995)

The Next Picture Show

Filmspotting

Tv & Film, Film History, Film Reviews

4.6858 Ratings

🗓️ 9 January 2018

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Craig Gillespie’s crowd-pleasing new I, TONYA features a tragicomic tone, a genesis in tabloid true-crime, and an abundance of style, all qualities it shares with Gus Van Sant’s 1995 mockumentary TO DIE FOR, starring an ascendant Nicole Kidman. In this half of our discussion of the two films, we attempt to pinpoint where TO DIE FOR fits into Van Sant’s varied filmography, how it navigates its tricky tonal and narrative divides, and what exactly its broad satire is actually targeting. Plus, in place of our usual Feedback segment, our four hosts share the first half of their individual lists of 2017’s best films. Please share your comments, thoughts, and questions about TO DIE FOR, I, TONYA, or both by sending an email to comments@nextpictureshow.net, or leaving a short voicemail at (773) 234-9730. **Show Notes** Outro music: “Season of the Witch,” by Donovan Works cited: • “Naked Animals and Sacred Cows: Buck Henry” by Tim Sheridan at StopSmilingOnline.com • “The 15 best movies of 2017” by Tasha Robinson at TheVerge.com • Filmspotting #661 and #662 (“Top 10 Films of 2017”) at filmspotting.net Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

It's very difficult to keep the line between the past and the present.

0:05.1

You believe that someone out of the past can enter and take possession of a living being?

0:11.8

We may be through with the past, but the past is not through with us.

0:19.2

Welcome to The Next Picture Show, a movie of the week podcast devoted to a classic film and how it's shaped our thoughts on a recent release.

0:25.5

I'm Tasha Robinson here with...

0:26.9

Keith Phipps.

0:27.6

Genevieve Kosky.

0:28.5

Scott Tobias.

0:29.6

Here on the next picture show, we believe that no film exists in a vacuum and that all culture is more interesting in context.

0:35.2

So every other week, we get together to talk over a

0:37.5

classic film and consider how it relates to a current movie. This week, we're slathering on

0:41.7

the blue eye shadow, practicing our most brilliant smiles, and looking straight into the

0:45.8

camera as we explain our grand ambitions to get out of this small town trap and into the big leagues.

0:50.7

Scott, you've just about gotten your triple axle down. So why don't you get out there and represent your country by telling us what's on the docket this week? Okay, but only if you

0:58.2

can promise this podcasting gig is going to lead to attention from prominent Hollywood producers

1:02.4

because otherwise you're holding me back and then who knows what I might have to do to you.

1:06.8

Oh. This week's films are both mockumentaries about ambitious women with big dreams and big entitlement,

1:11.9

both trying to get ahead in spite of judgmental systems that seem to exist to keep them down.

1:16.5

Both of them are used to slapping on big, fake smiles to please an audience,

1:19.7

but both of them end up as true crime story tabloid fodder once the men in their lives try to settle the problems with violence.

1:26.4

But there are some crucial differences.

1:28.1

And Gus Van Sant's bleak, stylish 1995 satire to die for,

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