#110 Jason Flom with Patrick Pursley (Live from ComplexCon Chicago 2019)
Wrongful Conviction
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4.4 • 5.8K Ratings
🗓️ 15 January 2020
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
On April 2nd, 1993, 22 year old Andrew Ascher and Becky George sat in his parked car by her brother’s apartment building on Silent Road in Rockford, IL, when a black man in a blue ski mask approached the vehicle, announcing a stick up. While Becky frantically fished in her purse for some money, the armed robber shot Andrew twice. Both of the bullets and their casings were retrieved from the crime scene and during the autopsy. Meanwhile, across town, Patrick Pursley celebrated his son’s birthday in the apartment he shared with his girlfriend Samantha Crabtree. Over 2 months later, as the police came up empty on Andrew’s murder, an acquaintance of Patrick and Samantha’s, Marvin Windham, traded false information with the police through Crime Stoppers that implicated Patrick in exchange for leniency in his own legal matters, as well as a $2,650 reward. It was also revealed at trial that Windham had a long time crush on Samantha. Police obtained a search warrant, retrieved a Taurus 9mm from their apartment, and interrogated Samantha, threatening to take away her children if they didn’t get the story they wanted in the form of a confession and an immediate grand jury testimony - a testimony she would later recant at trial. But, with her coerced confession on the record, Windham’s “hot tip”, and conflicting expert ballistics testimony about the murder weapon and the Taurus 9mm found at the apartment, Patrick Pursley was convicted of 1st degree murder and sentenced to life without parole.
In this episode, recorded in front of a live audience at ComplexCon Chicago 2019, Patrick tells Jason of his wrongful conviction and subsequent fight for freedom, including how he changed a law from inside prison in order to obtain the ballistic testing necessary to set himself free.
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| 0:00.0 | At 10pm on a snowy April 2, 1993, 22-year-old Andrew Asher and Becky George sat in a park |
| 0:10.4 | car in front of a brother's apartment on Silent Road in Rockford, Illinois. |
| 0:14.9 | A black man approached the car in a blue ski mask and a hoodie and he opened the driver's |
| 0:18.6 | side door announcing a stick-up. |
| 0:20.7 | While Becky fished around in her purse and tried to offer the gunman the $60 she had, |
| 0:24.5 | he shot Andrew Asher twice. |
| 0:26.8 | Becky ran to her brother's apartment to call the police and the two bullets and their |
| 0:30.2 | casings were retrieved from the crime scene and during the autopsy. |
| 0:34.4 | Through the use of incentivized eyewitness testimony, the coercion of a false confession |
| 0:38.3 | and grand jury testimony from Patrick Persley's girlfriend Samantha Kratri, testimony she |
| 0:42.9 | later recanted a trial, and conflicting and misleading ballistics expert testimony, Patrick |
| 0:48.2 | was convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to life without parole. |
| 0:53.8 | With an epic appeals process that included Patrick getting a law change from prison in |
| 0:59.0 | order to get new ballistics testing done that would ultimately set him free, Patrick |
| 1:03.1 | Persley suffered for over 25 years for a crime he simply didn't commit. |
| 1:09.5 | In March 2017, Patrick's conviction was finally vacated and he was released on bond. |
| 1:15.6 | He was formally acquitted at his retrial on January 16, 2019. |
| 1:21.2 | This is wrongful conviction. |
| 1:27.2 | Hello America, Danielle Moody here. |
| 1:29.6 | I am an unapologetic black queer woman who isn't afraid to use my voice loudly and proudly |
| 1:34.7 | to stand up for what's right. |
| 1:36.4 | For the last five years, it has been my mission to ring a daily alarm and make America woke. |
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