Hey, everybody. We've got a great one today, you know, for a change. And I really mean it this time.

Heather McGee, my all-time favorite guest now on for her third time. You know, when I guest hosted

The Daily Show, I asked Heather be one of my guests, and she knocked it out of the

park, as she always does, and that show was the highest rated by any of their guest hosts,

not because of Heather. It, you know, it was me. You know, when I first got to the Senate,

the Great Recession had just begun, and the housing

market, as you know, collapsed, hurting a lot of people. And Heather was the head of a group

working on economic disparity issues. And I had a piece of legislation that that group,

Demos, got behind, trying to address how the credit

rating agencies had given these AAA ratings to junk. And Demos and Heather and I started

working on it together. So we got to know each other back then. And those of you who have listened

to Heather's previous

conversations here know that she has written one of the most insightful books in explicating

the wealth gap between whites and blacks in this country. The average black family led by a

college graduate has less net wealth than the average white family led by a high school dropout.

The book, The Some of Us, a runaway New York Times bestseller.

The title comes from the premise that the whites at

the top have always told whites at the bottom that whatever helps black people economically

hurts them. And that, of course, turns out not to be true. So the title, The Some of Us,

echoes a theme of one of my heroes, Paul Wellstone,

who said, we all do better when we all do better. Anyway, now the sum of us has been adapted,

Heather adapted it, for middle school students, which I find very exciting. And of course, Heather has been learning

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