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The Art of Manliness

#110: Hardboiled Detectives, Boxing, and Creativity With David Levien

The Art of Manliness

The Art of Manliness

Society & Culture, Education, Philosophy

4.714.5K Ratings

🗓️ 16 April 2015

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

David Levien is a screenwriter, movie producer, novelist, and amateur boxer. He's worked with his writing partner Brian Koppelman on Rounders, Ocean's 13, and The Illusionist. On his own, he's published several novels, including the Frank Behr detective series. In this episode, I talk to David about writing, why detectives are an American archetype of masculinity, and boxing. This was a really fun and engaging conversation.

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0:00.0

For up, McCay here and welcome to another edition of the Art of Manliness Podcast.

0:19.0

So a few months ago we had Screenwriter and Renaissance Man Brian Copeland on the show to

0:23.4

discuss creativity, working routines, facing rejection, and what Brian had to say resonated

0:28.7

with a lot of you.

0:29.7

We got rave reviews about that podcast.

0:31.7

It was Brian mentioned he has a writing partner that he's worked with for pretty much

0:36.6

his entire career that they've worked together on rounders, the illusionists, Oceans 13,

0:42.1

not writing partners named David Levine and Brian made the introduction and I had to

0:45.5

get David on the show because besides being a screenplay writer, besides being a movie

0:50.4

producer and director, David is also a published novelist and he's focused a lot of his work

0:55.0

on the detective genre which I'm a big fan of a Lorraine and Chandler and all those

0:59.7

classic hard-boiled detective novels.

1:01.9

There was Dave and I discuss creativity, his working routine, how you establish a working

1:07.8

relationship with a writing partner or a business partner of any type.

1:11.4

We also discuss detective novels and what men can learn from detectives in the detective

1:17.5

novel genre and why the detective has become such an archetype of American masculinity.

1:24.9

Besides that, we talk about boxing in MMA, David is a boxer, is dabbled in mixed martial

1:30.1

arts as well for most of his life and in fact his grandfather was a professional boxer

1:35.1

who fought Joe Lewis for the world championship.

1:38.9

We discuss what lessons David has learned from boxing and also from his grandfather's experience

1:43.6

as a professional boxer in boxing, Joe Lewis.

1:45.8

Anyway, fascinating podcast was lots of great insights and things you can do to start

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