Moving does give you a license to do nothing in a weird word, doesn't it?

Because you feel you're making some form of progress just by sitting there.

And so sitting reading a book or just staring into space in a train is easier to do than the same thing when at home.

Rory Sutherland is one of the most fascinating and flamboyant speakers to grace this

podcast many other adjectives as well elegant eloquent as well as being the vice

chairman of Ogilvy UK Rory is an expert in consumer behavior, trends and online influence, which basically

means you can talk to him about literally anything and he'll have a unique point of view.

I wasn't even sure what to call this one because it's such a

jumble of topics and we cover so much ground and I'll have to get him back on to talk

more because I really wanted to talk more about transport which sounds boring bear with me just talking

about transport sounds boring but the way that Rory does it I've heard him on other

podcasts and stuff it is really really good about how we can do things differently and put the

human first.

Hey, that's what this podcast does, putting people first,

the human, remembering the human.

But we'll go into the perils of the press.

We'll discuss psychopaths and we'll look into ways that electric cars, that's right we're getting

on to that and transport is getting things wrong and right.

I mean did you guys know about dog mode in electric cars?

I didn't, but if you did, there's more extra stuff, I promise you,

there's loads of stuff he's gonna, it's a real eye-opener. I read and loved his book, Transport for

Humans, the link is in the show notes, you should get it. I think it is really good. I'd also like to thank my

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