Hey, it's Wes. So it's been about four months since Carol and I finished the first season of

The Unforgotten, The Labor Day Ghost, about the murder of Shelley Salter Watkins in 1993. We're still

digging, talking to people, tracking down leads, some of the things that we've learned have given

us more hope that justice can still be served. But we've also run into some things that just don't seem to

add up. We're going to get into all that today in the first of two bonus episodes coming out this

week and next. I do want to mention really quickly that we're doing things a little differently this

time. Carol and I are just going to sit down and talk everything out. A lot of today's conversation has to do

with the DNA recovered from all the materials found with Shelly's body when she was pulled out of

the Trinity River back in 93. The discovery of that DNA from an unknown male first came up in

Chapter 8 of the podcast. We have a few other updates he won't want to miss.

Stuff about the sheriff's office that's been leading the investigation, a former Texas

Ranger who was heavily involved. And also Jake felt the former son-in-law of Jerry Mack Watkins.

Jerry Mack, I'm sure you remember, is the chief suspect in the case. And as we've mentioned

throughout the podcast, he's never been charged with any crime. He's innocent until proven guilty.

All right. Let's get started.

Hello again. I'm Carol Dawson. And I'm West Ferguson.

This is a bonus follow-up episode of things we have learned since the conclusion of season one of the Unforgotten, the Labor Day ghosts, about the unresolved murder of Shelley Watkins in Corsicanna, Texas.

And we're going to be talking about the DNA that was discovered with the evidence found with her body.

So as we reported in the podcast, in 2019, the sheriff's office took all the materials that were found with Shelly's body and sent them off for testing.

They found the DNA profile of an unknown male that was in those

materials. And then I guess it would have been spring 2023, so almost a year and a half ago,

that you had your interview with Sheriff Hillhouse?

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