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Bad People

11. Plant Pot Killer: How do our biases blind us?

Bad People

BBC

True Crime

4.41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 12 November 2020

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

People have been going missing from Toronto’s Gay Village since the 70s. The gay community claims that the police are not taking the disappearances seriously enough. The pieces start to fall into place when one man goes missing and leaves a diary entry for that day saying “Bruce”. Police survey a Bruce McArther, a gardener and mall Santa. When they see him enter his flat with another man, they break the door down only to find a man handcuffed to his bed. On this episode of Bad People, presenters Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen uncover why there are very few serial killers over the age of 40, and why people from vulnerable populations are less likely to be reported missing. Warning: This episode contains strong language and references to sexual violence, and murder. Archive credits: This episode includes audio from CBC, Global News and W5. Presenters: Dr. Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen Producer: Caroline Steel Assistant Producer: Simona Rata Music: Matt Chandler Series Editor: Rami Tzabar Commissioning Producer: Hannah Rose Commissioning Executive: Dylan Haskins Commissioning Editor: Jason Phipps Bad People is a BBC Audio Science Production for BBC Sounds #BadPeople_BBC

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We sometimes literally run around the BBC building to grab the very best guests.

0:23.4

Join us for daily news chats to get you ready for today's conversations.

0:28.3

Newscast, listen on BBC Sounds.

0:31.4

BBC Sounds. Sounds. BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts.

0:37.0

Three, two, one.

0:38.0

Welcome back to Bad People. This episode is about the tragic death of a number of gay men who died at the hands of Canada's most recent serial killer, who was labeled by the judge who ultimately convicted him as pure evil. I'm Dr.

0:55.9

Julia Shaw a criminal psychologist. And I'm Sophie Hagen, stand-up comedian.

1:00.8

And this is our podcast, Bad People.

1:03.0

Now occasionally, there might be some strong language because we always talk about crime and

1:09.6

well bad people on this series.

1:12.3

Right, and this time we'll talk about a bad person in Canada, which seems like a mix that we don't hear about very often.

1:20.0

So we're going to travel to a place where I've got almost every summer since I was a little girl to Toronto, Canada.

1:26.0

And in 2016, the BBC actually called Toronto the most multicultural city in the world.

1:32.0

Lovely, right?

1:34.0

Right.

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I feel you're about to ruin our idea of Canada.

1:37.0

I am.

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