Welcome to Pick Me Up, I'm scared. The podcast. I'm your host, Madeline. And I'm your co-host, Kenna.

Okay, today, Kenna, I wanted to ask you, how do you define bribery? Bribery? Uh, I wish I had something like, the Oxford Dictionary.

No, no, just what do you think of?

Bribery is when you do something.

To me, bribery is always opaque.

It's not transparent.

You're like, I am giving someone money or favors and, like, kind of like in the dark,

because if it was out in the open, it would be looked down upon or it would be unethical.

So, like, that's, I guess that's how I would describe it.

It'd be like, uh, I don't know.

I guess like I think of like another level of like that would be like

blackmailing someone. Right. But not in the same level of bribery, but. So like you're

giving someone something with the understanding that they will do something you want them to do. Yes.

Yes. Okay. Cool. So how do you define political lobbying?

Um, like a corporation is just like, hey, we'd love to donate to your campaign. And what about, uh, you know, giving money for light bulbs or whatever we manufacture oil, gas, you know?

So what do you think the difference is between them?

Probably in my mind, not much.

Yeah, not much, right?

Like, I know you can lobby people to be like, hey, we need to make, like, I know there probably are some groups, it's like, hey, we want to make schools safer, or we want to

make, you know, the roads safer, we want to make schools safer or we want to make you know

the road safer we want to like make more forests but i don't think of that happens right yeah they

don't have as much power yeah yeah so i was thinking about this and to me i'm like what's the

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