What is up, everybody? Mark on the mic here, Mr. Ryan Muckenherne across from me. And I believe first time guest, second time, what did we do before?

I was a favorite guns podcast first. Oh my gosh. It was so long ago. It feels like the first time hot minute, which is crazy. We got Damon Zito. That's who that's who you can hear right now. Damon, you are a big time outdoors.

Yes. I feel like the podcast even today's, which we'll get to the topic here, which is going to be duck hunting on a budget, a waterfall hunting on a budget.

I feel like honestly, we've had you on like we're having you on now. We had you on before, but very fringe of actually like a lot of the really cool stuff you do. Big hunter, big archery hunter, big trapper.

I can do essentially anything regarding animals, the outdoors, anything I can get my hands on. I like to at least try it out. And if I don't like it, which hasn't happened yet, then I don't do it.

So that just keeps adding up. That's a lot of hobbies. I feel like you could just start with trapping and that just like then you just know you do all the other things to.

Yeah. I was telling it seems to be that way. Yeah. Like if you've gotten to trapping. Yeah. Like everything else you're doing all the other things to.

I was telling your wife that you are the dosakis man of vortex. I'm curious to see why that how that adds up to your mind.

Well, I mean, it's just like kind of when we're talking earlier when you found a rap song, researching chainsaws.

The dosakis man was the most interesting man in the world. He is the most interesting man in the world.

Damon Zito is the dosakis of vortex optics. Copy that. Yeah. Copy that. Nothing he can't do. You want to catch a 72 pound beaver?

Damon Zito. That's the guy you go to for that. That's correct. All right, gentlemen. Well, talk is cheap hunting in general is not cheap.

And that goes for really kind of all types of hunting in general. But there are some things we can do to save some money or maybe things on the surface like waterfowl hunting.

You look at it and you're like, oh my gosh, dude, like I'm trying to hunt geese. I don't have enough money for it.

You know, 500 decoy, you know, 500 count decoy spread full bodies by the trailer, get the lease, all the things, right?

On the surface, it seems like the most expensive hunt. The rabbit hole goes deeper than most other rabbit holes you could dive down into for sure.

It does, but you don't have to you don't have to dive that deep to go. And I think I think for a lot like if I was to look at it from like social media from the outside and I'd be like maybe not for me.

I saw one this weekend. They had that's not true. Right. They had a 3500 series pickup truck and a trailer that had three side by side ATVs on it. And they were going to shoot mallards.

That was a lot of stuff. And maybe it was like terrain prohibitive like you couldn't walk there. Maybe that was a production. Yeah.

Sure seems that way. What?

Damien, let's start with you. Like what? I mean, you do a lot of waterfowling. Yes, sir. Like what would you say is like, you know, the baseline person goes, you know what?

I just want to I may not want to go with both feet. Maybe I want to dabble like a dabble.

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