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The Counsel of Trent

#1082 - Should Christians Ever Hate People?

The Counsel of Trent

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🗓️ 22 September 2025

⏱️ 17 minutes

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In this episode Trent interacts with President Trump and Protestant Joel Webbon's rhetoric about hating our enemies. Matthew’s ‘Get Out of Marriage Free’ Card https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/matthews-get-out-of-marriage-free-card To support this channel: https://www.patreon.com/counseloftrent [NEW] Counsel of Trent merch: https://shop.catholic.com/apologists-alley/trent-horn-resources/ Be sure to keep up with our socials! https://www.tiktok.com/@counseloftrent https://www.twitter.com/counseloftrent https://www.instagram.com/counseloftrentpodcast

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0:00.0

In the aftermath of the killings of Arenas Zarutzka and Charlie Kirk,

0:03.0

I've seen a lot of Christians say righteous anger isn't enough.

0:06.7

We need to hate those who commit and celebrate evil.

0:09.7

At Charlie Kirk's memorial yesterday, President Trump said something that even some Christians

0:13.9

are tempted to believe.

0:15.3

In reference to Charlie Kirk, he said,

0:17.2

He did not hate his opponents.

0:19.2

He wanted the best for them. That's where I disagreed with

0:23.6

Charlie. I hate my opponent. And I don't want the best for them. I'm sorry. I am sorry, Erica.

0:32.1

In today's episode, I'll explain why this emotion, as natural as it may feel, is incompatible with the Christian life.

0:38.7

Let's start with a recent interview of Protestant Joel Weben discussing Christian hatred.

0:43.5

There's a lot of evil in the world. Yes. And there are just reactions to that evil. Right. Yeah,

0:49.6

part of the reason the West is on the decline. Honestly, one of the quintessential primary reasons is

0:55.7

because we've lost the will to hate. We've lost the will to hate. We must hate where the Lord

1:02.0

hates. And I do understand, you know, hate the sin and not the sinner. I think that there

1:07.5

is at least a degree of that being biblically true.

1:12.9

But we also do have, you know, verses in the scripture, I think of David in the Psalms,

1:16.7

who says, do I not hate those who hate you?

1:21.1

Not hate that.

1:22.8

Do I not hate those people who hate you?

1:26.2

Yes.

1:27.1

I hate them with a perfect hatred. One of my favorite

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