1072: Did JD Vance Tell the Pope to Shut Up?
The Next Level
The Bulwark
4.8 • 3.2K Ratings
🗓️ 15 April 2026
⏱️ 76 minutes
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Summary
Sarah Longwell, Tim Miller and JVL cover a rough week for Trump, from failed talks with Iran that turned into a naval blockade, to strong signs of real cracks inside his coalition as allies and right-wing media begin to push back against his idiocy. They also talk about what Orbán’s defeat in Hungary means for Trump-style politics, and discuss the lightning-fast downfall of Eric Swalwell.
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| 0:00.0 | If 10% of the evangelical base decides we might have got tricked by the devil, |
| 0:05.2 | I'm great. |
| 0:06.2 | I'm into it. |
| 0:06.9 | I love it. |
| 0:07.6 | And it could be right, by the way. |
| 0:09.0 | He could be demon possessed. |
| 0:10.3 | I'm not ruling it out. |
| 0:13.8 | Hello, everyone. |
| 0:14.9 | This is JVL here with my best friends, Sarah Longwell and Tim Miller of the bulwark. |
| 0:20.8 | A little bit of shameless self-promotion. |
| 0:23.4 | The Webby Awards voting is closing. |
| 0:26.7 | You have to stop. |
| 0:28.6 | And we only have 36 hours. |
| 0:31.3 | He tried to make me set up a burner email. |
| 0:33.1 | I can't make you do anything you don't want to do. |
| 0:35.6 | You are blowing everybody else out of the field. |
| 0:39.0 | It's not even close. |
| 0:40.3 | Why did you not ask one of the nerds at the office just to create you a bot army to do this? |
| 0:45.4 | Because that would not be authentic. |
| 0:47.3 | And I only want to win authentically. |
| 0:49.7 | Yes, it is. |
| 0:50.4 | Asking my people out there. |
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