1068: Kristi Noem’s Husband Isn’t the Problem
The Next Level
The Bulwark
4.8 • 3.2K Ratings
🗓️ 1 April 2026
⏱️ 74 minutes
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Summary
Sarah Longwell, Tim Miller, and JVL get into the wild new scandal involving Kristi Noem’s husband—and why the story isn’t what people think it is.
They also discuss Trump’s chaotic handling of the Iran conflict, the political fallout at home, and whether his support is starting to crack. Plus: Lindsey Graham’s surreal Disney detour, protests across the country, CPAC’s decline, and JD Vance’s latest reinvention.
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| 0:00.0 | You can tell Tim was a political operative. |
| 0:02.9 | Sometimes you just get fallen. |
| 0:04.7 | South Leak. |
| 0:05.8 | You know, South Leak, false flag. |
| 0:08.6 | Self leak, your own ta-ta photos. |
| 0:13.5 | Hello, everyone. |
| 0:14.7 | This is JVL here with my best friends, Sarah Longwell and Tim Miller of the bulwark. |
| 0:20.4 | We had a big show to get to with lots of |
| 0:23.6 | very important subjects. It's a super-sized show. It was so big. The Green Room was even quite large, |
| 0:30.1 | but you can't hear that unless you're at the Bullwark Champaign tier, Founders level. So big that |
| 0:34.7 | we have to open with something not important, but also tremendously |
| 0:40.1 | satisfying at a psychological and spiritual level. Before we get that, though, I've been nominated |
| 0:48.2 | for a Webby Award. Oh my gosh. I don't think the Webby Award is even a thing. Like, |
| 0:53.0 | I don't, like, it's not a real... |
| 0:55.0 | And yet, for some reason, I want it so bad. I can't explain why. I'm like Tracy Jordan when, like, you know, a sweatshirt comes and it's, it's, it's you're marked for him and Jenna. And he's like, I want this. This is the greatest sweatshirt ever. I want this. Just at least, why don't you just let me do this for you? |
| 1:12.4 | Okay? |
| 1:12.9 | I just, it would be so much better for you if you just let me pitch you as like you did for my book, right? You tell people to buy my, I don't, you don't need to do this yourself. Guys, Webbies are important for some reason related to the internet. And here's the thing about the Webby's. |
| 1:29.4 | You voting. |
| 1:31.0 | They are democratic. |
| 1:33.3 | So if you're like me and you love JVL's triad in theory, or in practice, and you read it |
| 1:43.8 | every day, like I do, truly, go vote for JVL to get a Webby. |
| 1:49.6 | Can I just say, if you're a Bullwark Plus member, that's a fine thing for you to do is go vote for the stupid fucking Webby. |
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