1068: Dan Vogel - The Book of Mormon as “Revelation” Instead of “Translation” Pt. 1
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
4.5 • 5.7K Ratings
🗓️ 13 February 2019
⏱️ 61 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Summary
Continuing our discussion with preeminent Joseph Smith historian Dan Vogel, we dive deep into explaining the authorship of the Book of Mormon including these topics:
- Nephi/Moroni confusion
- Book of Mormon Geography and the Hill Cumorah
- Limited Geography Theory
- The Nahom apologetic defense of The Book of Mormon
- Instances of Chiasmus
- Blake Ostler’s “Loose Translation” or Expansion Theory
- The Movement of the modern Mormon church in 2019 to refer to The Book of Mormon as a “revelation” instead of a “translation”
- Joseph’s motivations and pious fraud theory
- Dan's theory on Joseph Smith’s polygamy
Transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | Mormon Stories is a production of the Open Stories Foundation and relies solely upon the support |
| 0:09.1 | of people like you, its listeners. To help keep the podcast alive or to become a member of |
| 0:14.0 | the community, please become a monthly subscriber by visiting MormonStories.org and clicking on |
| 0:19.4 | the Donate button on the right side of the page under Support. All contributions to Mormon Stories |
| 0:25.0 | are completely tax deductible in the United States and go towards producing the podcast and building |
| 0:30.4 | communities and programs of support for Mormons like you. Thanks for your support. |
| 0:49.3 | Let's go to the actual discussion about some of the content of the Book of Mormon now. |
| 0:56.0 | You know, there are all sorts of things we can talk about. A lot of people like to make issue |
| 1:01.1 | of the fact that so many of the names, the city and location names in the, you know, we'll call |
| 1:10.3 | the geography of the Book of Mormon, resemble actual geographical cities and bodies and mountains |
| 1:19.8 | and hills in Joseph Surrounding Area. So there's the geographical formations. There's the location names. |
| 1:29.6 | There's the Hill Camorra itself, which clearly is probably going to tie to the Hill that Joseph |
| 1:37.3 | referred to near his home. And of course, we have the church coming out with a recent statement |
| 1:44.0 | on the Hill Camorra just this February 2019. Let's talk about geographical locations, city names, |
| 1:52.8 | and the Hill Camorra. And then we'll get to other matters of content. What do you want to say about that? |
| 2:00.8 | Well, the geography is one of the things that got me onto the Indian designation. It was |
| 2:10.8 | debates I was having with Apologists over Geography. And I knew this limited geography theory was |
| 2:21.6 | a farce, as soon as I heard it, because it just does not fit and that they're trying like crazy |
| 2:30.0 | to twist and distort the Book of Mormon itself as well as the geography in Central America. |
| 2:40.5 | In the Mount Builder myth, some versions have the Indians, or what became the Indians, the |
| 2:52.8 | Mount Builders. They landed in South America, built mighty civilizations in Peru, |
| 2:59.6 | traveled up through the Panama, the neck of land, and up to Mexico, built those mighty civilizations |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dr. John Dehlin, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of Dr. John Dehlin and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.