1065: Even Trump’s Cheerleaders Are Saying “Oops”
The Next Level
The Bulwark
4.8 • 3.2K Ratings
🗓️ 20 March 2026
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
Tim Miller, Sarah Longwell, and JVL were live in Austin talking about Trump’s Iran war, the cascading economic fallout, and growing global instability. As gas prices spike and allies react, the conversation turns darker: how bad could this get—and what it says about America right now.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm concerned about nuclear annihilation, and you're like, well... |
| 0:05.1 | And JVL's like, that'll teach them. |
| 0:06.7 | Maybe that'll... |
| 0:07.1 | Then they'll have really found out. |
| 0:09.1 | Maybe, maybe just... |
| 0:10.7 | Maybe just one little bomb. |
| 0:14.5 | Hello, Austin. |
| 0:15.4 | I'm JVL here with my best friend, Sarah Longwell. |
| 0:19.1 | It's Tim Miller of the bulwark. |
| 0:21.7 | Yeah. |
| 0:24.0 | Yeah. |
| 0:26.8 | So, uh, last night's show in Dallas was great. |
| 0:30.4 | I was nose annex, super nice and happy, lightside JVL. |
| 0:38.3 | Not tonight. |
| 0:41.3 | You guys, he saved dark JVL for you. |
| 0:44.3 | That's like so nice. |
| 0:48.3 | So, uh, okay, so listen, here's the deal. |
| 0:51.3 | The war is not going great, but there are some silver linings. |
| 0:58.1 | In the last 48 hours, two of my former friends, Christopher Caldwell and Sorabamari, |
| 1:03.8 | who spent the last decade fluffing Donald Trump, have all of a sudden gone, |
| 1:07.8 | oops. |
| 1:10.3 | And it's so fucking delicious. |
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