106. The Pyjama Killer

Bad People

BBC

Society & Culture, True Crime, Unknown

4.4 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 15 August 2024

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Bad People is back!

Criminal psychologist, Dr Julia Shaw, is joined by a new co-host: journalist and documentary maker Amber Haque.

The new season starts with a true crime story that went viral during lockdown.

Penny Jackson looked as if she was living the middle class retirement dream. Holidays and a retirement home by the sea.

But cooped up with her husband during lockdown, her anger got out of control. After a petty row about food she stabbed her husband to death. When police arrested for murder, she said, "Oh good." Video footage of her being taken into custody in her M&S pyjamas went viral.

Amber looks into the couple's lives for clues about what led to their fatal row. Julia and Amber discuss coercive control, toxic relationships and complex grief.

Presenters: Dr Julia Shaw and Amber Haque Producers: Ciaran Tracey and James Shield Executive Producer: Innes Bowen Unit Manager: Lucy Bannister Production Coordinator: Juliette Harvey Researcher: Rhiannon Cobb Mix Engineer: John Scott Recording Studio: 88Hertz Commissioning Editor: Dylan Haskins Assistant Commissioners: Adam Eland, Sarah Green and Izzy Lee-Poulton

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0:26.0	Music uncovered the UK Garage Story.
0:28.0	Listen now on BBC Sounds.
0:30.0	BBC Sounds, music, radio podcasts.
0:38.0	You're listening to bad people.
0:40.0	The Podcasts about the bad things people do and why.
0:43.7	This episode includes descriptions of homicide and domestic violence.
0:47.0	It also contains strong language.
0:49.2	It does, because this week's episode is about a story. You might even remember it going viral during lockdown, the so-called M&S, Pajama Killer. what happens when rage gets the better of Penny Jackson.
1:07.0	All right Penny I'm further arresting you for murder.
1:12.0	Oh good. Murder by a woman who looked the picture of middle-class retirement in a
1:18.3	seaside town. So I'm back after telling everyone that I'd retired from bad people, I'm here.
1:33.6	And yes, it was great working with Sophie,
1:36.6	and we had a great dynamic.
1:38.0	And I loved Sophie's wit and the questions
1:40.2	that they would ask that were on everyone's mind.
1:43.0	But now I get to work with you, Amber,
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