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The Verywell Mind Podcast

106 - Psychological Tricks for Creating Lasting Change with Professor Katy Milkman

The Verywell Mind Podcast

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Health & Fitness, Self-improvement, Mental Health, Education

5703 Ratings

🗓️ 20 September 2021

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Katy Milkman is a professor at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania and the host of Charles Schwab’s popular behavioral economics podcast Choiceology.  She is the co-founder and co-director of the Behavior Change for Good Initiative, a research center whose mission is to advance the science of lasting behavioral change. Her new book, How to Change: The Science of Getting from Where You Are to Where You Want to Be, is a best-seller that describes the little things you can do to make a big difference in your life. Some of the things Katy shares are her favorite research studies about how to make good habits stick, the critical steps you should take to eliminate a bad habit, and how to set yourself up for success.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Very Well Mind podcast. We've interviewed over 100 authors, experts, entrepreneurs, athletes, musicians, and others to help you learn strategies to care for your mental health.

0:22.9

This episode is hosted by psychotherapist and bestselling author Amy Morin. Now let's get into the episode.

0:45.5

Okay. Do you struggle to change your habits?

0:48.7

Do you set a goal but abandon it before you reach it?

0:51.3

Do you have a hard time resisting temptation?

0:56.8

If so, this episode is for you. My guest today is Katie Milkman.

1:02.3

Katie is a researcher on behavior change and a professor at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. She's also the host of Charles Schwab's popular behavioral economics podcast

1:08.3

called Choiceology. Her bestselling book, How to Change,

1:12.6

The Science of Getting from Where You Are to Where You Want to Be, recently grabbed my attention.

1:18.4

And as soon as I read it, I knew I wanted to get her on the show. Some of the things she talks about

1:23.2

are how to stick to healthy habits, how to get rid of unhealthy habits, and how to create lasting

1:29.0

change in your life. Make sure to stick around until the end of the episode for the therapist's

1:33.8

take. It's the part of the show where I break down my guest strategies and share how you can start

1:38.9

applying them to your life today. So here's Katie Milkman on how to create the lasting change you need to become the strongest

1:46.0

and best version of yourself. Katie Milkman, welcome to the Very Well Mind podcast. Thank you.

1:51.9

I'm excited to be here. Thanks for having me. I'm excited to talk to you. I'm a therapist and my work is

1:56.9

all about helping people create the changes that they want in their life. However, lots of people

2:01.1

struggle with this. And despite our best intentions, they just say, things aren't working for me.

2:05.8

One of the reasons why I was drawn to your book, which happens to be called How to Change,

2:10.6

is because you don't give a roadmap of, okay, do this, this, and this. Instead, you talk about

2:15.9

the obstacles that are in our way,

2:18.0

how even despite the best of intentions, we struggle to create change because we have these

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