Marsha and Saga here welcome back to the Realignment.

I think for a long time we've taught people and we've assumed that the way to prepare

for the future is to get really close to the machines.

So major in STEM, optimize your time so that you're never wasting any time so that you're

a maximally efficient productivity machine, learn to code, all these things that we assumed

would help people get a leg up in the new economy.

That's really not what I heard from the people I talked to for this book who are AI scientists

and experts and CEOs.

They said basically that we need to go in the opposite direction.

We need to help people do things that only humans can do and that robots can't easily replicate.

Today's episode with Kevin Russo the New York Times discusses new book Future Proof.

Nine rules for humans in the age of automation covers so much that what Saga and I are obsessed

with on this show.

We discuss automation, whether it's a crisis or not, how we're re-approaching the way

that workers should operate at a time when even their white collar jobs are up for grabs,

how COVID is changing the world and whether or not policies like UBI could actually make

a difference.

Of course because it's the realignment we also pivot to the discussion of content moderation

and how we all operate online.

Kevin of course hosted the Rabbit Hole podcast at the New York Times which discussed how

YouTube and other platforms could serve to radicalize people.

We get into a bit of a debate about how best to respond to the dangers and the opportunities

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