Hello, my name is Justin the Clu. I'm here today with Will Sloan.

And you're listening to The Important Cinema Club. And today, we're talking about experimental cinema.

And you may be going, whoa, that's a giant subject. It's not like you're doing an episode on action films.

You're absolutely right.

But I also have to come from the perspective of experimental cinema, I think, out of any genre,

genre, and I put it in quotation marks, is one that people usually feel a little bit more nervous about.

And I think there are a lot of reasons for that. Not only that the films seem difficult to understand, but also because they're often not available, and it's hard to

understand, it's hard to know where to start. Like, sometimes they'll be on DVDs or Blu-rays

that are long out of print. Sometimes you have to be able to live in a big city and catch them

in a screening series. Sometimes, you know, seeing them projected in certain circumstances is the only way to see them.

And we live in a world right now where the stimulus needs to come instantly.

And the thing about experimental cinema is that it often approaches from different angles to create different reactions.

And if you don't get that stimulus, you're like, I'm bored. I'm on my phone doing something or I'm looking for something else on the internet. Who has chatted with me recently? And I think most people who get into experimental film probably get in it through school, right? Yes. They go take a course. I wanted to talk a little bit about my personal perspective from when it comes to

experimental cinema because when I was a kid, I had zero interest in it. And I think that stems

from a few different circumstances of my life where I was a young kid that was growing up in a

small town, where I moved when I was in junior high, up until the end of high school. And I always

felt outside of all my friends and the people that I talk to every day.

But instead of trying to kind of rise up above them to look down and be like, I understand

this stuff, I became suspicious of anything that was like smart to use a broad terminology,

principally because I was not a good student at all.

I had like C grades or degrade, sometimes failure.

And when I would see these people just ace stuff, like A plus, whatever, I had a distaste

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