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The Next Level

1058: They’re Hiding the Epstein Files to Protect Trump

The Next Level

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.83.2K Ratings

🗓️ 25 February 2026

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Sarah Longwell, Tim Miller, and JVL run through a packed episode: explosive new questions about the Epstein files and whether Trump’s DOJ is shielding him, the Supreme Court’s tariff ruling (and the three justices who would green-light almost anything), and what it means for the midterms. They also discuss Kristi Noem’s completely fabricated “cannibal” story, Laura Loomer pressuring Trump to go after Netflix, Make-a-Wish kid Kash Patel, and the messy Senate primary in Texas.

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0:00.0

I'll make fun of whoever I want to.

0:04.4

Hello, everyone.

0:05.6

This is JVL here with my best friends,

0:08.2

Sarah Longwell and Tim Miller of the bulwark.

0:11.1

We are intermediated by screens

0:13.1

and in three separate parts of the country

0:15.3

the way God intended.

0:17.1

Because being together on a stage in real life,

0:23.6

very disturbing. Did not care for it. It was was great i didn't give either of you my cold so congrats you're welcome um stayed here i apologize we

0:29.0

went into this crowd me and sarah did not jbill he stayed in her move yes and uh we had let

0:34.5

our our biggest fans rant and uh i hope i gave i didn't give any of them a cold, but it was nice to hear from them. Okay. We are taping on Tuesday afternoon. The State of the Union is a few hours from now. So we're going to talk about it, not at all. Ignoring State of the Union entirely. And instead, we're going to do this PTI style. We've got a smorgasbord of topics,

0:55.7

and we're just going to do a rundown. And we're going to start with Jeffrey Epstein News.

1:00.8

Everyd his favorite. MPR reports today that the Justice Department withheld and removed some of the

1:06.5

Epstein files related to Trump, including notes from a conversation with a woman who accused Donald

1:13.9

Trump of sexual abuse when she was a minor.

1:16.4

13.

1:17.2

I would say my own assumptions, and this is tentative, my own tentative assumptions throughout

1:25.5

this ordeal have been that Donald Trump certainly knew.

1:32.7

Donald Trump certainly was around this stuff.

1:39.6

But did Trump go-

1:40.2

And certainly participated with adult women.

1:42.5

And certainly participated with adult women over the age of 17.

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