1056: Winning the Mental Game of Leadership with Sébastien Page
How to Be Awesome at Your Job
How to be Awesome at Your Job
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🗓️ 8 May 2025
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
Sébastien Page explores how great leaders navigate failure, conflict, pressure, and purpose.
— YOU’LL LEARN —
1) How agreeableness holds you back
2) How to know whether a goal is still worth pursuing
3) How to make stress work for you
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— ABOUT SÉBASTIEN —
Sébastien Page is Head of Global Multi-Asset and Chief Investment Officer at T. Rowe Price. He has more than two decades of leadership experience and has done extensive research on positive, sports, and personality psychology. He currently oversees a team of investment professionals actively managing over $500 billion in Assets Under Management.
Page has written two finance books: Beyond Diversification: What Every Investor Needs to Know, and the co-authored Factor Investing and Asset Allocation, and he has won six annual research-paper awards: two from The Financial Analysts Journal and four from The Journal of Portfolio Management. He appears regularly on CNBC and Bloomberg TV, and in 2022 was named a Top Voice in Finance by LinkedIn. He has been quoted extensively in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and Barron’s. His latest book, The Psychology of Leadership, is on sale now from Harriman House. Page lives in Maryland with his wife and kids.
• LinkedIn: Sébastien Page
• Website: PsychologyofLeadership.net
— RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THE SHOW —
• Book: Can't Hurt Me: Master Your Mind and Defy the Odds by David Goggins
• Book: Never Finished: Unshackle Your Mind and Win the War Within by David Goggins
• Book: Open: An Autobiography by Andre Agassi
• Book: Quit: The Power of Knowing When to Walk Away by Annie Duke
• Book: The Coaching Habit: Say Less, Ask More & Change the Way You Lead Forever by Michael Bungay Stanier
• Book: The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People: Powerful Lessons in Personal Change by Stephen Covey
• Past episode: 727: How to Start Something New and See it Through with Michael Bungay Stanier
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| 0:00.0 | If you want to run a high performing organization, a high performing soccer team, a high performing orchestra, a large proportion of the success of the team is going to be the quality of the relationships. |
| 0:22.6 | And it's not about being nice and feeling good every time, but it's trust, it's mutual respect. |
| 0:28.8 | It's how you give feedback to each other. |
| 0:31.4 | Those things are absolutely necessary for strong leadership and strong team performance. |
| 0:43.3 | So we go from this theoretical, positive, nice sounding, positive psychology stuff to really practical business practices in terms of how you give feedback, how you receive feedback, |
| 0:48.3 | how you talk about culture, why culture matters, how people interact within a team, why trust is so important. |
| 1:01.0 | That's Sebastian Page. He serves as the head of global multi-asset and chief investment officer |
| 1:10.2 | at Tiro Price and has been dubbed a top voice in finance by LinkedIn. |
| 1:14.0 | His new book, The Psychology of Leadership, offers perspectives on leadership backed by positive psychology. |
| 1:19.6 | So learn, one, how agreeableness can hold you back. |
| 1:22.6 | Two, how to know whether a goal is still worth pursuing. |
| 1:25.8 | And three, how to make stress work for you. |
| 1:28.9 | And if you want a quick summary write-up of some of these actionable takeaways, |
| 1:31.6 | I recommend you sign up for the free gold nugget email newsletter at awesome at your job.com. |
| 1:36.8 | I'm Pete McItis. |
| 1:38.0 | This is How to Be Awesome at Your Job. |
| 1:39.6 | And now, here's Sebastian. |
| 1:45.2 | Sebastian, welcome. |
| 1:46.7 | Thank you. |
| 1:47.3 | I'm very excited to do a podcast. |
| 1:49.8 | I don't get to do that many, |
| 1:51.1 | and it's a lot more relaxed than what we usually do on live national TV |
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