I don't care if you have a million followers on Instagram like if you're walking into a room

thinking that everyone knows who you are you need to go to therapy you know what I'm saying like it's a whole

different game and you need to check yourself and have some perspective on what you do.

So I don't take any of that stuff for granted. The Hey, I'm Greg Gunn, and welcome to the future podcast.

Today's guest is a traditionally trained graphic designer turned artist.

At least that's what his grandmother calls him.

But you might recognize his work from Murals, Graffiti, The Patriot Act show on

Netflix, or even his collaboration with international clothing brand, Uniclow. The guy has done a lot. I mean, he even

worked at Apple for a year.

Now as designers we're taught not to insert our opinions into our work

but our guest does the exact opposite. Beyond the wild strokes in his artwork, there's one theme that resonates through it all.

He takes a clear stance on issues. You could call it politics, opinions, or just speaking from the heart, but whatever you name it, it's very personal and he puts it all out there for the world to see.

In this episode, he and Chris talk about what it means to live that public life and all the beautiful and ugly things that come along with it.

Oh and there is some light swearing in this one so heads up if there are kids around.

Please enjoy our spirited conversation with Timothy Goodman.

So before we dive in first, thank you very much for doing this with me.

Yeah.

And you seem like a very open and transparent person online,

and I'm wondering if I can go into the deep places and ask you some of the

some of the questions that maybe might make other people uncomfortable I don't know how you

feel about that. Yeah let's talk about anything anything man. I'm an open book, seriously.

Fantastic. All right, so I guess I just want to jump in here. So you're a very public

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