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The Next Level

1035: Legal Orders | The Secret Podcast

The Next Level

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.83.2K Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2025

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Trump crossed a line, again. JVL and Sarah Longwell discuss Trump’s latest tantrum: calling for Democratic senators to be put to death after they released a video reminding service members they don’t have to follow illegal orders. Yes, really.Then we get into the Epstein-email panic, why Trump suddenly pretended to support releasing documents he fought for years, and what’s really pressuring him behind the scenes, Dick Cheney’s funeral, and the singles vaccine. Don’t worry, Sarah WILL BE GETTING IT!


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0:00.0

Hey, guys, it's JVL with Sarah.

0:03.0

Hey, I didn't even have to tell you to say hi.

0:04.8

No, I know.

0:05.2

You always have to tell me.

0:06.7

So, guys, TNL family, we have a very brief, but I think pretty tight, pretty good show this week.

0:14.1

Talk about Dick Cheney's funeral, Donald Trump's death threats.

0:18.8

Epstein.

0:19.8

Jeffrey Epstein.

0:20.9

Not death threats to Donald Trump, the ones he's making against Democratic senators.

0:25.6

Right.

0:26.7

Here's the show.

0:27.8

Hello, everyone.

0:28.9

This is JVL.

0:30.0

Here's my best friend, Sarah Longwell, publisher of the bulwark.

0:33.0

And Sarah, you just recorded a day or two ago, I think, a focus group with Senator

0:42.1

Alyssa Slotkin.

0:43.5

And shortly after that recording, the president of the United States said that she

0:48.9

should be put to death.

0:51.2

Yeah.

0:51.9

Specifically that she should be put, like not a generic like whoa democrats of the enemy of the

0:58.0

people but like these these democratic senators made a video right it was lysis lockin and who else was

1:07.3

in it it was like well it was all it was basically all the Dem ex service people. So it was also, Mark Kelly. I don't remember everybody who was in it. But, you know, there was a, it was like eight of them. And they all, so this is where he didn't call for specifically Slot he basically called them so he tweeted a couple

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