In the consult, we discuss cases involving violence, sexual violence, abduction, and murder. Sometimes the cases we discuss involve children. Listener discretion is consult. I'm Julia Cowley, retired FBI agent and profiler. And today I'm going to

play for you a discussion I had recently with Anya Kane and Kevin Greenlee, hosts of the

Murder Sheet podcast and authors of the new book Shadow of the Bridge, which covers the 2017 murders of Abigail

Williams and Liberty German in Delphi, Indiana. This book is packed with details I hadn't heard

before and I can't recommend it enough. The conversation I had with Anya and Kevin wasn't a simple retelling of the case. I want

you to read the book for that. Instead, I wanted to have a discussion about behavior with them,

the offender behavior, the victimology, and the dynamics that play in this crime,

you know, exactly the kind of analysis we do here on the consult.

For me, it was a riveting discussion.

And if you're interested in this case, I highly recommend you read Shadow of the Bridge as

soon as possible.

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Now here's my lengthy discussion with Anya Kane and Kevin Greenlee.

And I just want to say too that they were very generous with their time.

So this is a longer episode, but there were just a lot of things to talk about

in their coverage of the Delphi murder. So I really appreciated the time that they extended to me

for this. I hope you enjoy it.

So I just want to welcome Anya Kane and Kevin Greenlee, who wrote Shadow of the Bridge,

the Delphi murders, and the dark side of the American Heartland.

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