just ask yourself before you put anything out there is this true and even when I'm writing

Facebook ads like I want to be careful about not insinuating that you buy this program and you have an ATM machine in your office.

Like building and like having a digital course business like it's work like it's complex.

A lot of people try and fail. It's going to be work. It's going to take time. You'll have lots of flops. So I'm always like

looking at my marketing and making sure that it's true. true. The Hey, it's Greg, and welcome to the future podcast. Today's guest is an email marketing

expert. In fact, it's her superpower and one that she's built

quite the successful business around. She also has the best name that I've ever heard.

Tarzan. How cool is that? In this episode, Tarzan and Chris talk about her journey from jazz pianist, to lawyer, to copywriter,

and ultimately to course creator.

And what I love most about their conversation is that Tarzan is so transparent and generous.

She talks about how her sheltered upbringing paved the way for a rebellious spirit,

and she doesn't shy away from talking about money.

So you'll get to hear the what, the how, and the why of how our business

works and all the revenue that it generates.

If you're interested in copywriting or email marketing, then you're going to love this episode. And if you're not, that's okay too.

The stories and the lesson shared here can apply to just about any marketing tactic.

So put away your inbox for the next few minutes,

and please enjoy our conversation with Tarzan K.

You're super intriguing to me because you're unlike most of our guests and that you have a very

highly specialized skill and you work in a very specific way.

I was literally listening to a few of the podcasts that you've been on before, so I don't want

to rehash old territory here, but I want to just start off with this because I saw it in the

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