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Lingthusiasm - A podcast that's enthusiastic about linguistics

103: A hand-y guide to gesture

Lingthusiasm - A podcast that's enthusiastic about linguistics

Gretchen McCulloch and Lauren Gawne

Science

4.8743 Ratings

🗓️ 18 April 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Gestures: every known language has them, and there's a growing body of research on how they fit into communication. But academic literature can be hard to dig into on your own. So Lauren has spent the past 5 years diving into the gesture literature and boiling it down into a tight 147 page book. In this episode, your hosts Lauren Gawne and Gretchen McCulloch get enthusiastic about Lauren's new book, Gesture: A Slim Guide from Oxford University Press. Is it a general audience book? An academic book? A bit of both. (Please enjoy our highlights version in this episode, a slim guide to the Slim Guide, if you will.) We talk about the wacky hijinks gesture researchers have gotten up to with the aim of preventing people from gesturing without tipping them off that the study is about gesture, including a tricked-out "coloured garden relax chair" that makes people "um" more, as well as crosslinguistic gestural connections between signed and spoken languages, and how Gretchen's gestures in English have been changing after a year of ASL classes. Plus, a few behind-the-scenes moments: Lauren putting a line drawing of her very first gesture study on the cover, and how the emoji connection from Because Internet made its way into Gesture (and also into the emoji on your phone right now). There were also many other gesture stories that we couldn't fit in this episode, so keep an eye out for Lauren doing guest interviews on other podcasts! We'll add them to the crossovers page and the Lingthusiasm hosts elsewhere playlist as they come up. And if there are any other shows you'd like to hear a gesture episode on, feel free to tell them to chat to Lauren! Click here for a link to this episode in your podcast player of choice: https://episodes.fm/1186056137/episode/dGFnOnNvdW5kY2xvdWQsMjAxMDp0cmFja3MvMjA4MDgzMjc2MA Read the transcript here: https://lingthusiasm.com/post/781132632536793088/transcript-episode-103-a-slim-guide-to-a-slim Announcements: We've made a special jazzed-up version of the Lingthusiasm logo to put on stickers, featuring fun little drawings from the past 8.5 years of enthusiasm about linguistics by our artist Lucy Maddox. There's a leaping Gavagai rabbit, bouba and kiki shapes, and more...see how many items you can recognize! This sticker (or possibly a subtle variation...stay tuned for an all-patron vote!) will go out to everyone who's a patron at the Lingthusiast level or higher as of July 1st, 2025. We're also hoping that this sticker special offer encourages people to join and stick around as we need to do an inflation-related price increase at the Lingthusiast level. As we mentioned on the last bonus episode, our coffee hasn't cost us five bucks in a while now, and we need to keep paying the team who enables us to keep making the show amid our other linguistics prof-ing and writing jobs. In this month’s bonus episode we get enthusiastic about linguist celebrities! We talk about start with the historically famous Brothers Grimm and quickly move onto modern people of varying levels of fame, including a curiously large number of linguistics figure skaters. We also talk about a few people who are famous within linguistics, including a recent memoir by Noam Chomsky's assistant Bev Stohl about what it was like keeping him fueled with coffee. And finally, we reflect on running into authors of papers we've read at conferences, when people started recognizing us sometimes, and our tips and scripts for navigating celebrity encounters from both sides. Join us on Patreon now to get access to this and 90+ other bonus episodes. You’ll also get access to the Lingthusiasm Discord server where you can chat with other language nerds: https://patreon.com/posts/125728510 For links to things mentioned in this episode: https://lingthusiasm.com/post/781132385944322048/103-a-hand-y-guide-to-gesture

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Lingthusiasm, a podcast that's enthusiastic about linguistics. I'm Lauren Gorn.

0:24.0

And I'm Gretchen McCulloch. And today we're getting enthusiastic about Lauren's new book about

0:29.5

gesture, including why we gesture and how linguists do research on it. But first, I have a little story to tell. Okay. So a little while

0:41.5

ago, I was in a very cool cafe, restaurant, pub type place. Okay. And I went to the bathroom.

0:49.8

Okay. The bathroom had a bunch of fun, like, stickers and art and graffiti on the walls.

0:56.3

Uh-huh.

0:57.0

And there were some stickers for podcasts.

0:59.9

And I was like, oh, that's so cool.

1:01.6

I should add an enthusiasm sticker.

1:02.9

Like, maybe people who go to this cool bar would like our cool podcast.

1:06.7

But then I realized we don't actually have a sticker or version of our logo that actually says that we're a podcast.

1:15.7

Oh, good point.

1:18.8

Like our logo just says enthusiasm, which is great if you are like, ooh, linguistics was enthusiasm.

1:23.2

That sounds like it might be neat.

1:24.3

But not if you want to stick it somewhere that indicates here's

1:28.9

what you might want to get into this for. Sure. It would be nice if it did say something like

1:35.6

we're a podcast that's enthusiastic about linguistics. We have a great tagline. It just should actually

1:40.8

go on a sticker, but like with the way our logo is currently formatted,

1:44.5

there's not an obvious spot to put that. Yeah, I also realize we maybe have a bit of a design

1:49.3

issue when a family member put one of the show stickers up and very sensibly had the

1:54.7

wordling enthusiasm along the bottom. Oh yeah, this, I've seen this happen to people too. I give

1:59.9

them stickers and if they haven't listened to the show before,

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