#102 What Covid-19 reveals about the family w/ Sophie Lewis

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🗓️ 20 November 2020

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Sophie Lewis joins PTO to talk about her article in The Nation, 'Covid-19 Is Straining the Concept of the Family. Let’s Break It'. We chatted about how the Covid19 pandemic has underscored how dependent the nuclear family is upon the labour of others, and why the family is being called into question by mainstream political commentators. We also talked whether the call for family abolitionism is strategically the right call to be making, and whether instead the left ought to demand the extension of the beneficial aspects - of at least some families - to everyone. Become a £3 PTO supporter to access the extended version: https://www.patreon.com/posts/102-what-covid-w-44040794

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0:00.0	The first cut on this record has been cross-format focused for Airplay success. The men beat on their drums. I'm going to be. I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to the I'm ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha so I'm and so so The Hello and welcome to another episode of Politics Theory Other, a podcast from Tribune magazine.
0:50.0	My name is Alex Doherty and my guest today is Sophie Lewis.
0:53.4	We talked about her article in the nation.
0:55.6	COVID-19 is straining the concept of the family. Let's break it. We chatted about how the
1:00.8	pandemic has underscored how dependent the nuclear family is upon the labour of others. We also
1:05.9	chatted about why the family is being called into question by mainstream political commentators.
1:10.6	And finally, we talked about whether the call for family abolitionism is strategically the
1:14.9	right call to be making and whether instead the left ought to demand the extension of the
1:18.8	beneficial aspects of at least some families to everyone.
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