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The Next Level

1013: They All Forking KNEW About Epstein

The Next Level

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.83.2K Ratings

🗓️ 9 September 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Sarah and JVL go through the Epstein Birthday Book in detail. We tell you what’s actually in it, no euphemisms. And what it means for Trump and 2026.

But before you ask: It’s Tuesday. So no Rebecca.

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:27.3

week because there's Epstein stuff to talk about. Oh, so much Epstein stuff. And this is all the

0:34.7

gory details. This is because I don't know that we can do this on YouTube

0:38.7

where like the algorithm doesn't want you to say a bunch of stuff. But this is the fully

0:44.5

not safe for work version. Not safe for work. Don't listen with your kids in the car. Here's the show.

0:49.9

Hello, everyone. This is JVL here with my best friend, Sarah Longwell. We have taken over just between us. Mona is out with some qualifying life events as the euphemism goes, which we are not going to share here. Sorry, but it's all good things. All good things.

1:08.7

All things for congratulations and love yes uh

1:13.9

sarah yesterday kind of a big day we got the epstein birthday book i mean i i i'm just want to let you go

1:25.6

i mean i guess i have lots of questions, but let's start with this stuff in the book.

1:32.2

People are fixating on the Trump contribution, as they should.

1:37.5

It's the most important part.

1:39.9

But we've now gone through the rest of the book.

1:43.7

Yeah.

1:45.0

And it's really bad.

1:47.8

Yeah, it's disgusting.

1:49.3

I mean, it's...

1:50.1

But it's not just...

1:52.1

If I could just...

1:53.0

I'm going to be a little judgy here.

1:57.4

It's not just, like, disgusting in a gross-out comedy way. It like disgusting in a gross out comedy way.

2:02.2

It's disgusting in a, this guy was obviously a psychopath way.

2:08.8

And everybody around him in this book understands that he's a psychopath.

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