Hey friends, before I get to the intro for this week's episode, two quick things.

First, I am aware that since we turned our ad platform on, you might have heard an ad that does not really

fit the work that we do do like answers in Genesis or certain

political candidates we are working on tweaking that so thank you for the

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All right, this episode of the podcast,

I have, drum roll please, Reverend Angela Denker. That's right, Reverend Angela Denker.

She wrote a book called Red State Christians,

A Journey into White Christian Nationalism

and The Reckage it leaves behind.

She is a Reverend ordained in the Lutheran tradition.

And I brought her on to talk about her book.

It's actually very fascinating.

She talked, well, I'll leave it for her to describe.

But the book is really helpful.

Just to understand some of the

ideologies that went into the 2016 Trump vote. We talk about the future of

Christian nationalism and also the term glory. Like there's a theology, a theology of glory is what Angela calls it. That was very

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