It's the Brian Larry Show on WNYC. Good morning again, everyone. Now we continue our WNYC

Centennial series, 100 years of 100 things, with thing number 21, 100 years of the U.S. and foreign

dictators. This will mostly be about the American right and foreign dictators because our guest,

journalist Jacob Habran, released a book this year, kind of tailor-made for a centennial series,

called America Last, the Rights Rights century-long romance with foreign

dictators. In his day job, Jacob Heilbrun is editor of the National Interest Magazine,

which focuses on national security issues, and a non-resident fellow at the Atlantic Council

Think Tank, which describes its mission as to galvanize U.S. leadership and

engagement in the world. His previous book, which you may know, was called They New

They Were Right, The Rise of the Neocons. And interestingly, Jacob Hobrun reminds us that he

introduced Donald Trump for Trump's first foreign policy speech as a candidate at the Mayflower

Hotel in 2016 in D.C. And we'll get to that. Jacob, thanks for coming on. Welcome to WN.N.Y.

Many thanks. And we'll get to you introducing Donald Trump for his first foreign policy speech

and your arc of developing opinions

of him that day and for the eight years since and in the context of your book.

But you're here for our centennial series.

So what inspired you to write about the rights century-long romance with foreign dictators?

It was the mounting admiration that I noticed over the past couple years, particularly

with Donald Trump's presidency, where he repeatedly elevated foreign despots like

Vladimir Putin above our Democratic allies.

And as I started to research and go back into the past, I realized that what

Trump was saying wasn't new at all. It was a return to older conservative traditions that emerged

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