Suzanne Gluck is one of my absolute favorite people. I just admire her so much. When I first

met her, I was prepared not to like her. She's a literary agent, and she approached me to try to convince

me to write a popular book. But I had zero interest in writing a popular book. I mean, I was dead set against

it. I only took her call grudgingly out of courtesy. But I have to say, by the time we hung up

30 minutes later, I was in complete awe of Suzanne. Using some sort of black magic that I simply

can't explain, she had convinced me to co-author a book with

Stephen Dubner, someone who I barely knew and I didn't even like. So how much has my admiration

grown for Suzanne over the years? But when my oldest daughters were teenagers, I flew them to

New York for a weekend, the only purpose of which was to have them meet Suzanne,

because I just couldn't think of a better female role model.

Welcome to people I mostly admire with Steve Levitt.

Often I'm worried before an interview about whether it will go well or not, but with Suzanne,

I'm not really worried because she's so naturally social. The only

shred of concern I have is that she's hardly ever been interviewed before, and sometimes

people act really differently when you put a microphone in front of them. But hopefully that

won't be an issue today. Now, just to get any conflicts of interest 100% out in the open,

if you had to choose your all-time favorite author among the many authors you've represented,

given that this is my podcast, and you've represented me for the last 15

years, I'm guessing you would probably say me, right?

I'd have to say you and Stephen are tied.

I'd have to say that.

Okay, that's fair.

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