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Visit peoplespension.com.'re joined by a very special guest. He's a Canadian and sorry, Skeetzie, he's more famous than you. He's probably not quite as famous as Justin Bieber yet, but it's a little bit closer.

He's one of the most accomplished journalists in the UFC and mixed martial arts world,

but his basketball knowledge runs deep too, and we've seen him work the NBA sidelines for ESPN.

Yet despite all his success, in his 37 years on earth, he's never

learned to ride a bike. He is Ariel Hohani. Ariel, thanks for joining us. Wow, what an intro. That

was amazing. And all very accurate too. I heard you on a radio show last week and someone brought up

the bike riding and you said, you know what, I've never learned to ride a bike, but you were teaching your sons how to ride a bike. So how do you do that? I, you know, honestly, I just lied to them. They have no idea. It's a big secret. They know that Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy don't exist, but they're not quite aware of the fact that I don't know to ride a bike. I don't know. I never figured it

out. And I remember many of times people were trying to teach me in summer camp. They would go,

oh, we're going to go on a trip and all this stuff. Couldn't figure it out. So here I am 37 years

old and I still can't ride a bike. And you know what? I'm proud of it, baby. Wow. I thought

there must have just been too much snow in Montreal growing up and the conditions weren't great for it, but I guess not. You had your chance in the summer. I did, yes. I wish that was the excuse, but no. That's better than me, Ariel. I've fallen off my bike a billion times and my friends would say to me that I can't ride a bike when actually I can. And so I'd rather be in your boat, I think. Just never get on the bike. Exactly. Never get on the bike. When people say like, oh, it's as easy as riding a bike, I don't know what that feels like. Is it? Who knows? Well, Ariel, let's start in the NBA world because the last dance wrapped up last weekend, and you were a Knicks fan. So was it painful to watch? I mean, what were your thoughts? What were your takeaways from the 10-part documentary? First of all, I loved every second of it, and that has nothing to do with the fact that I work for ESPN. I really enjoyed it, but I feel like I need to throw that out there in case anyone says, you're a shill, you're a corporate chill.

I had several feelings towards it because, number one, I know the director very well,

Jason Hare, when I worked at HBO Sports as a junior in college and my first year at a college,

he was there working on a show called Real Sports with Brian Gumbull, and we

hit it off, and we stayed very close over the years. In fact, when I first got a deal with ESPN,

it was March of 2018, and he first found out back then that he was going to get this deal

to do this documentary, and we went for lunch, and he said, I have news for you, and I said, I have news for you, and we both shared these two pieces of massive news in our lives. So it was cool to see it finally come to fruition. And I really enjoyed it. I thought they did a great job. It was very nostalgic. That's when I grew up being a basketball fan. That's when I fell in love with the NBA. And even though I was a diehard

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