What is up everyone? Welcome back to the Epic Gardening podcast. Kevin here and I'm back

again with Stacy Murphy of Grow Your Own Vegetables.org. Like myself, maybe together

we've done millions of people, Stacy, but she's helped tens of thousands, maybe even hundreds of thousands of people on six different continents grow their own vegetables and herbs, which is what I'm all about.

So we're actually talking very much

about that and like me Stacy you've seen tons and tons of people use your materials or just give you feedback on their garden and you've been able to watch right and so what I'm curious about is what have you noticed in in common with all these different people what have you learned as far as helping people actually learn how to grow food?

Yeah, the interesting thing to me is that a lot of times when I first tell people that I help people grow food,

the response that I get from people is, oh I would love to do that but my season is too

shorter. I would love to do that but and there's always

some reason but and it usually comes back to something around their climate like oh it's

too hot it's too cold it's too windy it's too mountainous it's too this it's too that and one of the things that I've noticed

with all of my students is that once there's a will there is a way and it's once you know that this is something that is

important in your world because you want the taste of homegrown you want the vitality of that food on your plate,

you want the experience of being outside, you want to experience the cycles of nature,

and you want to have that relationship with your food and know exactly where it's grown and how it's grown,

that the rest is actually the easy part.

Yeah.

And so I've had, I have a student in New York who grows dwarf citrus trees indoors and that seems kind of impossible for a lot of people you know and so really when there's a will

there's a way that was something that was very important to her and she set up a

greenhouse and she's been growing indoor citrus plants. Now keep in mind that most people

consider the best citrus plants to come from California and she's like nope I

don't accept that I'm going to grow citrus right here in New York City.

And then there's other folks who they have short growing climates.

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