Hey, everybody. I got a really special one today, you know, for a change. And this time,

this time I really mean it, because this is our special Fourth of July podcast. Now,

normally, my guests are either authorities on certain topics, Jeffrey Tubin and D are either authorities or on certain topics, Jeffrey

Tubin and Dahlia Lithwick on the courts, Paul Krugman and Austin Goulsby on economics,

Dr. Lena Wend and Andy Slavitt on the coronavirus, or they're comedian friends of mine like

Sarah Silverman and Chris Rock and Conan O'Brien. But because our nation celebrates its independence from England every 4th of July,

I ask the author of the Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson,

to join me, virtually, of course,

and thought you might enjoy this special Al Franken podcast.

President Jefferson, thank you for joining me.

My pleasure.

You know, lots of writers have used this device over the years.

Really, I thought I was the first. You're joking. That's funny.

Oh, okay. Where are you joining us from, sir? From my crypt in Monticello. Okay, well, first of all,

congratulations. Your words have held up very well over 244 years.

For the most part, I've been kicking myself for almost 200 years now on the all-men are created equal thing.

How so? Well, old men should mean all men, and I pretty much gave the impression that I meant just

white men who owned property.

So that wasn't your intention.

But actually, it was.

I just started regretting it a number of years later.

And when was that?

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