You're listening to The West Wing Weekly. I'm Joshua Molina.

And I'm Rishikesh Urway. Today we're talking about episode 20 from season one.

It's called mandatory minimums. It was written by fan favorite Aaron Sorken.

And it was directed by Bob Berlinger, incredibly nice, funny, great guy and an excellent director.

I worked with him on I think something like 12 episodes of Sports Night. He directed me

in my brief appearance in a TV movie starring charisma carpenter called C. Jane date.

And he's great.

And now he's directing C. Jane Craig. Oh, there you go.

Coming up later in the episode, we're going to be joined by Mayor Karen Freeman Wilson of Gary

Indiana to talk to us about the issue of mandatory minimums. And we're going to be joined by

Kathleen York, who makes her first appearance in the series as a guest starring as Andrea Wyatt.

Okay, music guy Gary and Deanna made famous in what musical our town. Good guess, but it's not a musical.

Our town is an amazing so so I guess that would be among the worst possible guesses.

It's on a stage. There's a song in the music man. Oh, now I've given it away. The music man.

Is it the music man? Since your original guest was a straight play, I figured I'd just

zoom right ahead to the correct answer. The music man. Gary Indiana, Gary Indiana, Gary Indiana,

my home, sweet home. I may have made up home, sweet home, but the Gary and Deanna part I know is

in there. I don't know if I've previously expressed to you that I'm not really a musical guy.

Well, it's certainly landed with incredible weight in your guest of our town.

I'm also now questioning whether you're a theater guy.

Yeah, not so much. Interesting. Should we get into it? I mean, really, you do dislike musical theater

as a genre. I do dislike musical theater with some, you know, notable exceptions.

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