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The John Batchelor Show

1/2: OCEANIA: PRC LOOKS TO DOMINATE FEDERATED STATES OF MICRONESIA. CLEO PASKAL, FDD.

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 3 June 2025

⏱️ 12 minutes

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1/2: OCEANIA: PRC LOOKS TO DOMINATE FEDERATED STATES OF MICRONESIA. CLEO PASKAL, FDD.
1883 MICRONESIA

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0:00.0

This is CBS, I on the World. I'm John Batchel, 7,500 miles between where I'm sitting in New

0:11.9

England and where Cleo Pascal, the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, is sitting

0:17.0

on woolly eye, a toll, part of the Federated States of Micronesia.

0:23.4

She is several days' boat journey from Yap, the main island, and the capital of the FSM,

0:30.3

and why she's there has to do with the contests between the People's Republic of China, their construction companies, their agents,

0:41.2

and once upon a time, the United States of America, that liberated this part of the world

0:46.4

from the Imperial Japanese Army and Navy. However, that was 80 years or more ago. And we come up to date with Cleo to begin with,

0:57.1

where in the world is Cleo Pascal,

0:59.0

and how did she get there?

1:00.4

Cleo is a very careful and hardworking member

1:04.4

of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy

1:07.4

generally headquartered on North America.

1:11.5

She is no longer North America.

1:13.0

She's in Oceania, this vast spread of water and sovereign states.

1:19.8

Three of those states are critical to the understanding of how to resupply the Philippines

1:25.0

and Japan and Taiwan in the event of hostility.

1:30.0

There are three sovereign states that come under the defensive perimeter of the U.S. in order to hold Hawaii in the event of war.

1:41.9

The three states, FSM as one of them, begin the Marshall Islands closest to

1:46.9

Hawaii, then the FSM, and then Palau. Cleo has reported on Palau at length. She's now reporting

1:55.4

on FSM because the Chinese are very present and very active. We begin, however, how she got to where she is

2:03.7

in a very generous family, giving her room in their home in order to broadcast to us and in order

2:13.1

to write the stories she can about the Chinese presence.

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