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1/2: #M.D: OVERDIAGNOSIS. OVERMEDICALIZATION RONALD DWORKIN, CIVITAS

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🗓️ 7 May 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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1/2: #M.D: OVERDIAGNOSIS.  OVERMEDICALIZATION RONALD DWORKIN, CIVITAS INSTITUTE
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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World. Here's John Batchelor.

0:12.0

I welcome Dr. Ronald Dwork, writing most recently at Civitas Outlook for Civitas Institute, about two terms that he will help me understand over-medicalization

0:24.6

and over-diagnosis. They're related but not. And it's a phenomenon that Ronald is found in a new

0:32.1

book, and this is a review, his essay in Civitas is a review of this book. The Age of Diagnosis, how our obsession

0:40.0

with medical labels is making us sicker by Suzanne O'Sullivan. It's on Amazon right now.

0:47.1

Dr. Dwork and Ron, a very good evening to you. Thank you for this. We'll begin with overdiagnosis

0:53.0

and your recognition of it as something that is either

0:57.7

fresh or available to us since our articulation is now enhanced by social media and the

1:05.3

internet. What is overdiagnosis? Good evening to you, Ronald. Thank you. Overdiagnosis is where people are

1:13.3

with everyday medical problems that would not even have been considered medical problems

1:17.2

years ago are now considered medical problems and herded into diagnostic categories.

1:22.5

It usually happens in two forms. One is new diagnoses are created and they have been over the last

1:27.2

20 or 30 years. Some examples

1:29.1

are chronic Lyme disease, the other Danes syndrome, some genetic disorders. And others are

1:35.3

heard into old diagnoses. So the old diagnostic categories are expanded to include these other

1:41.0

people who would not have been included in diagnostic categories, say, 40 years ago.

1:44.9

That might be, for example, asthma, diabetes, polysistic ovary disease, so on.

1:49.8

Overdiagnosis, is it a function of specialization?

1:56.2

Are we getting more and more articulate and demanding more articulation?

2:00.0

For example, as children were taught to say, I think I have a cold.

2:05.6

Now, that can be broken down in many directions.

2:08.1

Is that overdiagnosis when you describe the specific trouble that a child is having?

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