This is CBS I on the world. I'm John Bachelor. The European Union.

There is turmoil in the European Union and that's a healthy thing. There are loud voices in France for example.

Marie Le Penh is looking to challenge the establishment in Paris using the issue of migration, also the issue of farming. The agricultural

lobby in France is very powerful, especially in the South.

In the low countries,

Villers, for example, newly elected or newly promoted

in a vote in his country,

is talking about migration and borders.

That is a common conversation in America as well.

However, in the European Union, the issue can be transformed into the question of sovereignty.

So I welcome Judy Dempsey, the editor-in-chief of Strategic Europe.

This is the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. I recommend you sign up and you will get the essays by very good thinking about the European Union and America at the same time because we're in a very close relationship.

Duty, a very good day to you.

Sovereignty can be treated as build the wall, that's the way we do it in America can also be treated into the question

of do we ship them to Rwanda that's something that's come up in the Parliament in in

Britain though that's not EU, it's certainly Europe.

But you write of sovereignty is a question for the EU to address directly.

How so, Judy, pending the elections this year.

The issue of sovereignty is just so underestimated but so crucial.

And the sovereignty issue is particularly strong in Poland even with the new government. It's strong in the Baltic states for different reasons.

It's strong for two reasons. One is among the countries that were under the Soviet Union.

They want to protect their national identity and sovereignty even though they join the

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