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1/2 #BLINKEN: The exit interview: Anatol Lieven, Quincy

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🗓️ 10 January 2025

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1/2 #BLINKEN: The exit interview: Anatol Lieven, Quincy

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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World.

0:08.5

Here's John Batchelor.

0:11.8

Anthony Blink, and Secretary of State,

0:14.4

conversations on his way out the door of the State Department

0:17.5

after serving the President of the United States for four years and very

0:22.5

much on the road, a hardworking man. I understand he was with the president when he was

0:29.2

vice president and before. So he's a veteran of Capitol Hill and the White House. His exit

0:35.0

dealt with two areas that remain critical and extremely fragile,

0:40.4

Afghanistan, Ukraine, and Gaza. I welcome Anatole Levin of the Quincy Institute for Responsible

0:47.0

Statecraft, writing most recently at Unheard about Mr. Blinkins' remarks, and in general about Mr.

0:53.7

Blinkins' ruse the opinion of the work done these last years by his State Department in these three contested zones.

1:02.6

A very good evening to you, Anatole. About Afghanistan, the secretary, to my knowledge, did not speak to the whole of the failure in Afghanistan, only to the

1:14.1

exit, and did not speak to the upset that the exit caused and still continues to cause to

1:20.8

many Afghanistan veterans. He's not a man who is deliberately deceptive. How do you think that this is the, how should we hear these things?

1:32.1

I don't want to use the word falsehood.

1:33.9

It looked to me that he was looking to put a good face on it,

1:38.5

but there were emptiness in the face.

1:40.9

Good evening to you.

1:42.3

Hello, John.

1:43.3

Yes, well, I mean, look, he's a politician and a member of an administration.

1:47.1

He is, of course, bound to defend that administration's record. But I did feel, you know, my

1:53.2

gold standard for as far as one can reasonably expect a politician to go is Obama's interview with the Atlantic

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