This is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution writing about

a on the world. I'm John Bachelor. I welcome Professor John Cochran of

Stanford Universities, a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, writing about artificial

intelligence, the famous, the much-Ballyhooed, the much celebrated AI.

As a threat, John John a very good evening to you. It did not occur to me

that AI was a threat but you've documented at great length the threat of AI and then you've looked for examples in history

where there were comparable threats that were said to undermine civilization.

Introduces to that thinking good evening to you professor. Good evening to you, Professor.

Good evening. Well, I was writing the essay as a part of a whole book that Stanford put out, and

the central question was, basically, how must AI be regulated passive voice in order to save democracy?

So some of it's the economic impact as well as the idea that we need a regulatory approach in order to save democracy

from AI.

And I'm my sober k is grumpy economist.

You can imagine how grumpy I got at that prompt the just the

hubris of the idea that our regulators can go out and save democracy from AI

when we don't even really know what AI is or what it will do struck me as ridiculous.

The chisandras among us, however, enjoy entertaining apocalyptic language every epoch and you give examples in

the 20th century I like the one especially because of my education the millinarians of the year 1000, which we have reason to believe

created conditions for large geopolitical changes in map drawing, the Crusades for example. But therein is an

example of what we're going through with AI. Any new understanding of the world is a

threat to the world if I understand how

Cassandra works is that correct John? There are Cassandra's but they're also

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