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Counselling Tutor

096 – Counselling and Psychotherapy Difference

Counselling Tutor

Ken Kelly and Rory Lees-Oakes

Education, Courses

4.6636 Ratings

🗓️ 1 December 2018

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Practice Matters: Developing Your Internal Supervisor - Skill of Reflection In episode 96 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, Ken Kelly and Rory Lees-Oakes clarify the difference between counselling and psychotherapy. In 'Practice Matters', Rory looks at how to develop your own internal supervisor. Last, the presenters discuss the skill of reflection in counselling. Difference between Counselling and Psychotherapy (starts at 2.16 mins) What is the difference between counselling and psychotherapy? Or what is the difference between a counsellor and a psychologist? This question is often asked in our Facebook group, which includes over 20,000 people (students, tutors and qualified counsellors) interested in the world of counselling and psychotherapy. Rory explains that the key difference here is that psychotherapy generally requires a higher level of training, with most practitioners qualified at level 7 (master's degree level) on the National Qualifications Framework. Examples of psychotherapy modalities include transactional analysis (TA) and gestalt therapy. Psychotherapists may be able to diagnose mental-health conditions, and also to treat more serious ones (e.g. personality disorders). As a result of all these factors, they may well charge a higher hourly rate. Ken points out that the two terms - 'counselling' and 'psychotherapy' - used to be used more interchangeable, but that this is less so now. While both professions can join the British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy or National Counselling Society, there are more stringent entry requirements for the UK Council for Psychotherapy. Ken and Rory go on to discuss the importance of the therapeutic relationship in all modalities, and in particular the 'relational turn' in TA. If you are a member of the Counselling Study Resource (CSR), you can listen to a lecture there on TA and (under 'Study Help') find useful diagrams comparing/contrasting modalities (a common requirement in assignments). Developing Your Internal Supervisor (starts at 14.15 mins) In 'Practice Matters', Rory talks about the work of British psychanalyst Patrick Casement, who developed the idea of clinical supervision and first coined the term 'internal supervisor'. Rory explains how to use your learning journal and process notes to help develop your own internal supervisor. Rory explains the particular importance of ensuring you receive the right amount of supervision as a student counsellor. With supervision, you can look at transference and countertransference, boundaries, games, projective identification, legal and ethical issues, self-care, and what we can learn from our clients. If you would like to know more about this, Rory has prepared a handout that contains many useful hints and links. You can download it here, or access via the Handouts Vault and Counselling Study Resource (CSR). Skill of Reflection (starts at 17.51 mins) This skill is perhaps one of the most underused in counselling, and is very powerful. It is often conflated with paraphrasing, which inevitably involves applying our own interpretation of what the client has brought. In contrast, when we use reflection, we provide much more of a mirror image of the client's material. The most powerful use of reflection is to mirror back to the client the emotion that they bring to a story/narrative, which may be displayed through their words or body language (including tone of voice). It is in the emotion that the real work of counselling lies - enabling the client to delve more deeply into their personal process. Repeating the key feeling words back to the client can be really revealing to the client, enabling them to hear them as if for the first time. Not all clients may have access to the 'emotional palette' needed to describe how they are feeling, and reflection can help them to explore emotions and develop their ability to look at and talk a...

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Counseling Tutor Podcast, the must listen to podcast for students of counseling and psychotherapy.

0:10.6

Here are your hosts, Rory Lee's Oaks and Ken Kelly.

0:15.7

Hello and welcome to the counseling tutor podcast with me, Rory Lee's Oaks.

0:19.6

And with me, as always, is my wingman in everything therapeutic, Mr. Ken Kelly.

0:25.7

How you doing, Ken?

0:26.6

I'm good.

0:27.4

Well, actually, in the spirit of congruence, I'm feeling my, feeling a little low today.

0:35.0

Not terribly low, but I'm noticing a little bit of dip in my energy,

0:39.4

which I guess we are humans and we do experience times when we are woo-hoo and times when we are a little

0:44.8

so in the interest of transparency, that's where I'm at today. However, super excited, Rory,

0:51.7

for episode 96 kicking off with the difference between counselling and

0:56.3

psychotherapy, that age-old question. We're going to be discussing that in depth. Going into

1:01.8

practice matters, something really interesting. You're going to be speaking, Rory, about

1:06.2

internal supervisor. I am. I'm going to be talking about a little bit about the work of the British psychoanalyst, Patrick Caseman.

1:17.4

The man who really talked about supervision, he was the first person who actually kind of talked about supervision.

1:25.2

He coined the phrase internal supervisor and I'm going to share with you how you can use your learning journal or your process notes to help develop that internal supervisor.

1:41.7

Oh, exciting stuff. And of course, Rory, there's going to be a super-duper Rory's

1:45.2

secret source handout to go along with that. And we'll get to that in just a few moments when we

1:49.5

come to that practice matters section. And we're going to be ending episode 96 today,

1:54.8

speaking about a skill, a counseling skill, and that is the skill of reflection. I love this.

2:00.5

I'm mad on my skills, Rory. So that's put a spark in my eye this morning. And I think the skill of reflection is one of the lost skills. I think it's so seldom used and it is so incredibly powerful. So we're going to be delving deep into reflection. But let's kick off. What is the difference, Rory, between a counsellor and a

2:20.0

psychotherapist? Well, I mean, this is, we've actually talked, we're actually talked about this

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