You're listening to the Joe Gardner Show, the podcast all about gardening, where we cover

everything you need to know to grow like a pro, no experience required.

And now here's your guide, National Gardening Television Host, and the Joe Behind Joe Gardner,

Joe Lample.

Hi everybody, this is Joe Lample, the Joe Behind Joe Gardner, and welcome to the Joe

Gardner Show.

Well, today we're kind of still in that seed starting discussion mode, and we're bringing

back our good friend, our mutual good friend, Craig Lahulier.

He's kind of a regular around here, especially during this time of year with seed starting,

and then well into tomato season.

You've heard Craig on multiple episodes here, but we haven't talked in about a year.

And I thought we would catch up today, and you all could just listen in on our conversation.

Craig always has such amazing things to say, so insightful.

And as many times as we've talked, he always has new and interesting things to say, and he's

always up to something.

So just for that alone, it's worthwhile to listen to what he has to say.

And today is no exception to that.

He's got some fun things that he's going to share with us.

And this is one of those sit back, take it easy, kick off your shoes, and soak it in

kind of conversations, as Craig is so good at doing.

So that's what we're going to do today.

I emailed Craig on short notice, and I said, look, this is probably the time we should

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