This is self-work and I'm Dr. Margaret Rutherford. At self-work we'll discuss psychological and emotional issues common in today's world

and what to do about them.

I'm Dr. Margaret and self-work is a podcast dedicated to you taking just a few minutes today for your own self-work.

Hello and welcome or welcome back to self-work. I'm delighted you're here. I'm Dr. Margaret Rutherford.

I'm a clinical psychologist out of Fayetteville, Arkansas, and I began podcasting last year in order, in some ways to extend the walls of my practice to people

who might be already interested in therapy, be in therapy, know about psychological issues in today's world or people who would never

darken the door of a therapist who don't really know too much about it but might be

curious about what someone like me might have to say about different

problems or concerns that you have that we all have. So if that's your cup of tea

then I hope you'll keep on listening.

Today we're going to be talking about mindfulness,

and mindfulness is something that a lot of people think

is sort of a new agey thing, but it's really not.

It's got its basis in practices that do go back for centuries, but it's very present

oriented and it's actually a very, very helpful technique to handle anxiety, depression, and our topic for today on handling shame.

You know, I did episode 71 on perfectionism, I called it the disease of perfectionism and often shame and perfectionism go hand in hand.

You're trying to hide your shame by being perfect and we all know that's impossible right so I talk a lot about perfectionism

and we're also going to be talking about perfectly hidden depression a little bit if

you're curious exactly what that is the first time I talked about it was in episodes three and

four because I've been told that the average number of podcasts produced for each

person who did them was seven.

So I thought I'd get podcast in on perfectly

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