Hey y'all just a quick heads up the episode you're about to listen to is 8 to 10 years old

now these episodes were intended to be evergreen and I still believe there's a lot of good

information in these early episodes, but I do want to let you know that some of my ideas have evolved

over time. Times have changed since we made these episodes and ultimately I'd like to think I've grown

a lot as an artist and a human and that these don't necessarily represent my best work or the best of the podcast.

If you're new around here, I suggest starting with the most recent episode or

at least go back to around 300 and move forward from there.

Enjoy the episode. Don't chase the glory, work hard and be satisfied. Hey everybody you're listening to the Creative Pep Talk Podcast.

This show is about commercial art, finding a balance between making good money and making great art.

I'm your host Andy J. Pizza, Andy J Miller, Dr. Pizza, whatever you want to call me.

You can find this show on illustration age

dot com slash creative peep talk. Illustration age is our proud syndicate.

Hey go check out the tunes from the show. We've got the theme music from the band Why.

Thank you Yoni Wolf. That song is January 20-something and the last song is Berkeley by Hirschback and then all the

interludes and preludes and all the ludes are Metavari. Go check out that

it's SoundCloud.com slash Metavari, go check out that. It's SoundCloud.com

slash Metavari. Fantastic stuff.

Thank you, Nate, Utish. I'm probably one of those people that's easily excited. I get pretty stoked

about things, especially things that I deeply care about like the podcast but I kid you not I had a

phenomenal conversation with my man Tyler Deeb for the show today.

We got into the flow, into the zone.

We were talking about so many interesting things.

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