083: Role-Play Techniques (Part 1) — Externalization of Voices

Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy

David Burns, MD

Clinical, Therapy, Anxiety, Psychotherapy, Depression, Health & Fitness, Cognitive, Mentalhealth, Mental Health, Behavior, Education, Self-improvement, Psychology, Relationships, Addiction, Happiness, Personalgrowth

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🗓️ 9 April 2018

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

David's explains that he began developing role-playing techniques in the early days of cognitive therapy because many of the Beckian techniques, such as Examine the Evidence and the Socratic Technique--while sometimes very helpful, were sometimes a bit dry, and he wanted to include punchier and more powerful and dynamic techniques in his therapeutic toolkit. These role-playing techniques are just one part of what sets TEAM-CBT apart from traditional, Beckian CBT.

Today, he explains and demonstrates the Externalization of Voices, which is always combined with the Self-Defense Paradigm and the Acceptance Paradox. He is joined by Fabrice, of course, and "Sarah," one of the members of his Tuesday training group at Stanford. Sarah has volunteered to use a personal example in the podcast to help demonstrate the Externalization of Voices.

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to the Feeling Good podcast.
0:12.4	I am your host, Fabrice Nye.
0:14.7	And joining me here in the Murrieta Studios is Dr. David Burns.
0:19.0	Hi, David.
0:20.0	Hi, Fabrice.
0:23.8	Dr. David Burns has been a pioneer in the development of cognitive therapy, and he is the creator of the new team therapy. He is the author of
0:30.2	Feeling Good, which has sold over 5 million copies in the United States, and has been translated into
0:35.5	over 20 languages. He is an emeritus adjunct clinical professor
0:40.0	of psychiatry at the Stanford University School of Medicine. Welcome to episode 83 of the
0:46.4	Feeling Good podcast. Tonight is the first episode of a series of role plays, role play techniques that David has put together.
0:58.0	And this will be even more interesting because we are enrolling members of the Tuesday
1:04.9	group to be our guinea pigs and volunteers to do this.
1:11.5	So tonight we have Sarah, who has written a mood journal.
1:19.4	And before this recording, David and she have done a little bit of paradoxical agenda setting.
1:27.7	So we have not glossed over that.
1:30.6	This has been done already.
1:32.2	Now we're going to go into one method that David uses as like his super duper method called the externalization of voices.
1:43.6	So David, would you like to tell us something about this method?
1:48.4	No, Fabrice, I wouldn't.
1:50.6	Okay.
1:51.5	That's my feeble attempt at humor.
1:53.4	Yes, and we'll also do a little bit of the therapy with Sarah leading into the externalization
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