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All right guys as I teased in the last episode. We've got a very special episode for you today. I know I've had a lot of people

asking about this episode and when it was going to come out.

So it is right here. It is ready for you. So I have been taking my time with this one because I wanted

to make sure that it was going to work out well and that I could present it to you guys in a way that you would enjoy and that you would like.

So as I teased last week, this is going to be a, basically a review of the debate that Andy Stanley

and Jeff Durbin had on the unbelievable podcast with the host Justin Briarley.

And so if you're not familiar with the unbelievable podcast, I've talked about it several times here on this show.

It's basically a podcast that brings on people from divergent worldviews and then they come together and have a debate about it.

Now, what you might be thinking is just like any other debate that you've seen, you see these debates and they're just like firing things back and forth at each other

and kind of gets vitriolic at different points but this is one of the most

amazing podcasts because you'll have you know someone that's two people that used to be Muslim one is now an atheist

and one's now a Christian and then they're kind of talking about their world views and

everything but very very rarely does it get like katty or you know people insulting each other back and forth I think that has a lot to do and there's a lot of the I guess the positive goes to the host Justin Briarley because he does a really good job of kind of playing referee but even when he's not having to intercede

these people typically don't just go out each other personally they're kind of just talking about the ideas

so that's a definitely a podcast for you guys to check out It's unbelievable with Justin Briarley and it comes out every Friday. But I remember whenever this podcast was announced and I immediately got super giddy. And the reason is because you know with the background is that and I

talked about it on episode 23 of this podcast so if you've been listening for any

length of time I talked a little bit about it back then because Jeff Durbin has a ministry called

Apology a church and he's a pastor of a church and he does a lot of ministries on

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