Let's talk some more about the softer side of retirement, like finding meaning and purpose and fulfillment in retirement with my buddy Kevin Liles.

Today is part two of two of my previously recorded chat with him in this, the 79th episode of the Retirement Planning Education Podcast.

Welcome to the Retirement Planning Education podcast, where you can learn all about IRAs and Roth IRAs, employer retirement plans, taxes, Social Security, Medicare, portfolio withdrawal strategies, annuities, estate planning, and much more.

And now here's your host, Andy Panko.

That's me. That's Fad Albert, everyone. Thank you, as always, for listening to Retirement Planning

Education, the podcast, that is. So today is part two of two of my previously recorded discussion

with Kevin Liles, a retiree who is living the dream, walking the walk. He is a retirement

planning coach, which is his

encore career after a decades long career in corporate law. And he came on my Facebook group,

which at the time was called Taxes and Retirement, now since rebranded retirement planning

education a couple years ago, more than that actually, when I was still doing weekly live videos,

often with special guests, to talk about the softer side of retirement. Because as all

of you who are in the group know, the group is heavily focused. And my focus has historically been

on the financial aspects, tax things, investment things, social security things, pension

things, Medicare things, all of which are

tremendously important. But as important, if not more important in many cases, is the softer

side, the non-financial things, the like where are you going to live, who are your friends going to be,

what are you going to do to fill your days? What's going to be your new identity? Because

oftentimes your identity is tied up in your job for better or worse. And when your job goes, often your identity goes with it, unfortunately. So retirement could be very difficult

if you don't have a plan for the non-financial stuff. Most people have some sort of plan for

the financial stuff. But the non-financial is an afterthought if they even think about it at all.

So the goal of having Kevin on and to replay it for you all now

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