Let's talk about the softer side of retirement planning, things like meaning and purpose and fulfillment.

Special guest Kevin Liles is here with me to talk about it in this, the 78th episode of the Retirement Planning Education Podcast.

Welcome to the Retirement Planning Education Podcast, where you can learn all about IRAs and Roth IRAs, employer retirement plans,

taxes, social security, Medicare, portfolio withdrawal strategies, annuities, estate planning,

and much more. And now here's your host, Andy Panko.

Hello, everybody. Thank you, as always, for listening to the Retirement Planning Education

podcast. Today is part one of two of a pre-recorded chat I have with my buddy, Kevin Liles.

Kevin Liles is a, or was a corporate lawyer for his career, retired a handful of years ago,

and part of his finding meaning and purpose and fulfillment

in retirement was to help others find meaning and purpose and fulfillment in retirement.

So Kevin went back to school for life, a better word, became a retirement coach, a certified

retirement coach, retirement planning coach, and now is very active in many communities and working with people to

help them discuss and prepare for retirement with the focus on not just the financial side,

but the softer side, which a lot of people overlook. I mean, it's easy, well, not easy, but

everyone knows they need to sort of pay attention to and have a plan for things around, did I save enough?

How am I going to access my money?

When am I going to take Social Security?

What do I do with my house?

All those sort of typical financial things that you and I always talk about here in this

podcast and the other retirement planning education outlets.

And that financial stuff is definitely important. But the non-financial

stuff is as important, if not more. And that covers things like, you know, meaning purpose fulfillment.

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