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True Crime Bullsh**

0710 | Undercurrent

True Crime Bullsh**

Studio BOTH/AND

True Crime, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.65K Ratings

🗓️ 12 December 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Josh and team dissect various information and semantics surrounding Keyes's male-female couple. They circle back to Eugene Hyatt and Kami Vollendroff, and then deep-dive the disappearance of a Spokane couple. Then new information from a friend of Keyes gives the team a new perspective not on just the male-female couple and the vicitm ruled accidental, but potentially all of Keyes's unknown victims. 

This episode was written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark. 
With research by: Kathleen S. and Jordan Taylor
 
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0:00.0

This is a studio both and production.

0:17.2

When it comes to Israel Keys' Washington victims, I've never believed that there were only four.

0:26.5

And over time, and by paying great attention to how Keyes described these murders,

0:31.6

I feel fairly confident that I know how Keyes used semantics to mislead the FBI without actually lying to them.

0:40.3

In those conversations, there's an undercurrent of specificity.

0:44.3

Throughout the course of his FBI interviews and in his writings confiscated from his cell,

0:49.3

Keyes essentially lays out the following about his Washington state victims. There were two unrelated

0:55.8

victims killed on separate incidents and then disposed of using his boat. There was a male

1:03.0

female couple who were killed during the same incident. The woman was killed first, and Keyes

1:08.6

accidentally killed the man while trying to subdue him with a shovel.

1:12.6

At least one of his Washington victims was killed in the eastern jurisdiction of the state, presumably in the area of Ellensburg.

1:22.6

As best we can tell from the files and audio made available to us, and my conversations with Agent Ted Hala,

1:31.1

this is all we know for certain about Washington-specific victims.

1:36.0

But, by Hala's logic, there would have been at least one more, because if Hala truly believes

1:43.0

Keyes did not commit any murders until after the

1:45.9

army, the victim ruled accidental would have to be a Washington state victim as well.

1:52.4

Keyes said that victim was a long, long time ago.

1:56.8

Additionally, Keyes told us that his first murder went perfectly and just as planned, which would

2:03.4

rule out the male-female couple where he accidentally killed the male, and it would rule out

2:09.2

the person ruled accidental, where he didn't have enough time to finish things up and had to leave

2:14.2

the victim out in the open. So either Halla is right that Keyes didn't murder until after the army, but wrong that

2:22.3

there are only four Washington victims.

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