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True Crime Bullsh**

Studio BOTH/AND

True Crime, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.6 • 5K Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

In light of new revelations about Keyes's childhood and time in Eastern Washington, we further explore his upbringing, religious history, and his family's beliefs; which all lead us back to that farmhouse in Hunters, Washington. And from there, we try to make sense of what happened on April 2, 2005.

This episode was written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With research by: Jordan Taylor
And additional research by: Michelle Tooker and Shana Wilensky.

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