0705 | Hunters

True Crime Bullsh**: The Israel Keyes Investigation

Studio BOTH/AND

Society & Culture, True Crime, Documentary

4.6 • 5.2K Ratings

🗓️ 4 November 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

We first covered Hunters, Washington back in season two. And while our reporting on it paused, our investigation into it did not. Jordan and an anonymous source have spent years digging into Hunters and the abandoned farmhouse there. And even as we thought there was nothing left to find, new information began pouring in. And continued pouring in as recording and post-production on this episode were happening.

This episode was written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With research by: Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, and Michelle Tooker.

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0:00.0	True Crime Bullshit is off this week, but I wanted to pop in and announce my newest Trova trip.
0:09.0	On June 13th of 2026, we are going to Iceland.
0:14.0	And when I say we, I mean you, me, and Shana and Tooks from the research team, and Sydney Copp who helped identify Christopher Roof.
0:24.6	For as long as I can remember, Iceland has been number one on my travel list.
0:29.1	And it still somehow eluded me for all these years.
0:32.3	So I'm inviting you to come experience Iceland with me for the very first time.
0:37.2	We'll visit secret geothermal lagoons, waterfalls, geysers, the continental rift, and black
0:43.3	sand beaches littered with icebergs. We'll take a private boat tour, see the glaciers,
0:49.3	see puffins, and hang out in Reykjavik. It will be, I'm sure, a life-changing six days. Tickets go on sale at noon
0:57.6	eastern today, but because of pre-sale, there's actually only a few tickets left, so reserve your spot,
1:04.0	ASAP. Check out the link in the show notes or on Instagram. I cannot wait to see you in Iceland.
1:11.6	So I think when Ted was asking about the owl, I think he was, like, referring
1:31.0	so much to you, saying to someone, hey, if anybody asks, I was here, but more, like, ahead
1:36.8	of time telling, maybe telling someone, hypothetically you were going somewhere, but actually
1:41.1	going somewhere else.
1:42.1	I mean, was that to stop?
1:43.3	Oh, right.
1:45.0	Yeah.
1:46.0	Right.
1:47.0	You know, I'd take trips to eastern Washington and say I was going to see old friends
1:55.0	or go to see the old place in eastern Washington and, you know.
2:00.0	With Oregon.
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